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ILDA and Laserist mailing lists


About the mailing lists

ILDA runs two main e-mail discussion lists. The "ILDA List" is for ILDA Members only; the "Laserist List" is for anyone who is interested in laser shows (both Members and non-members).

IAll new ILDA Members are automatically added to the ILDA List and the Laserist List. If anyone wants off these list, see the section below on how to be removed from the lists.

We highly recommend that ILDA Members subscribe to at least the ILDA List. The ILDA List includes any inquiries received by ILDA, from potential clients looking for shows and equipment. These inquiries are posted only to the ILDA List, so that interested Members can contact the potential client.

ILDA's BuySell mailing list

We also run ILDA's BuySell mailing list, for those selling or needing lasershow-related items. This list has slightly different procedures and rules, so there is a separate page about the BuySell mailing list.

This page discusses the following topics:

Purpose of the lists
How the mailing lists work
Sending a one-time message
How to get on the lists (subscribe)
AOL addresses cannot be added
How to send a message to the lists
If you get a 'failure notice' saying your message did not go through
If you get a 'bounce notice' saying messages to you have been bouncing
How to read messages from the lists
How to reply to messages
How to be removed from the lists (unsubscribe)
List archives
If you have questions or problems
 

Purpose of the lists

The mailing lists are for discussions and announcements related to the list topics:

  • The ILDA List is for discussion of ILDA-related issues.
         It also has special benefits for ILDA Members only,
    such as inquiry referrals. For example, when ILDA receives an inquiry from someone looking for a laser show or laser equipment, the inquiry is passed along only to ILDA List members.

  • The Laserist List is for discusssion of laser show related topics.
         Since both ILDA and non-ILDA members are on this list, it is the best list to discuss general (non-ILDA specific) laser show topics.

Messages on the lists are the responsibility of the person posting. Messages do not necessarily reflect ILDA's policies or positions. ILDA normally does not pre-approve or restrict messages; however, the Association reserves the right to do this in special circumstances.

Only infrequent, short marketing messages allowed

On the ILDA List and Laserist List, occasional brief commercial messages are permitted, such as for new products or press releases. However, these are NOT marketing or sales lists.

If you want to buy or sell lasershow-related items, subscribe to ILDA's BuySell mailing list.. This is an "opt-in" list, so it is specifically targeted to people who welcome commercial messages.

Abuse policy: ILDA and Laserist List subscribers may post commercial messages no more than a couple of times per year. If we feel this is being abused, we will first warn a subscriber. We will take into account both how many messages have been sent, and their content (truly special announcements, or just routine sales?). If the abuse continues, we will remove the subscriber from the list. Since ILDA is the list owner, this is our right to do so based on our sole opinion.

ILDA also has other specialized mailing lists for ILDA internal use. These include lists for the Technical Committee, the Awards Committee, the Safety Committee and the Board. If you are on a committee but not on its list, contact ILDA's Executive Director to be added to the list.
 

How the mailing lists work

  • Receiving e-mail: Once you are on a list, you will receive all e-mail sent by other list members to the list.
  • Sending e-mail: If you send e-mail to the list, it will be received by all other list members. Interested persons can reply to you directly, or to the entire list.
     

Sending a one-time message

Non-ILDA members may want to send an e-mail message to one or both lists, without going to the trouble of signing up. If you have a one-time or infrequent use, simply send your message to ILDA's Executive Director, and ask him/her to forward it to the appropriate list(s). For more information, see the ILDA Inquiries and Referral Service page.
 

How to get on the lists (subscribe)

Subscribing is done by contacting ILDA and asking to be added to the list(s).

  • The ILDA List is open only to ILDA Members. Usually you are automatically added when you join ILDA. The expiration date is set to be January 15 of the next year. If you don't renew your ILDA dues by January 15, then you are automatically removed from the ILDA List.
        If you are an ILDA Member but are not on the list, send e-mail to ILDA's Executive Director and ask to be added. Be sure to include your company name or other means of identifying your ILDA membership.

  • The Laserist List is open to anyone interested in laser show topics. (Note that Laserist List is laserSHOW-related, including lasers used in these shows. For general laser-related topics, read the alt.lasers newsgroup.)
         ILDA Members are automatically added to the Laserist List. If you are not a Member but would like to join, send e-mail to ILDA's Executive Director and ask to be added. Please tell us a little about your interest and background in laser shows.
         There is no expiration date on the Laserist List. To be removed, see the unsubscribing instructions below.

Depending on the workload, trips, vacations/holidays, etc. of the Executive Director, it may take from a few hours to a few days to be added to the list(s).

AOL addresses cannot be added

As of August 2008, we cannot add AOL addresses to the ILDA and Laserist lists. This is because AOL's filters block messages from this list. The block then jeopardizes our ability to send email from ILDA's ISP.

To subscribe, you can use an alternate address, including free sources such as Hotmail, Gmail and Yahoo. Let us know the alternate address.
 

How to send a message to the lists

Use these e-mail addresses to send messages to the lists:

Note that only people who are on the list, can send e-mail to the list. This means that to send messages, you must use the same e-mail address that is registered with the list. For example, if you were subscribed using "bob.smith@yahoo.com", then you must send from that account. Otherwise, the message will be rejected and you'll get a "Failure notice" sent from the automated list manager.
 

If you get a "Failure notice" saying your message did not go through

If you get a "Failure notice", try sending with a different e-mail address. Maybe you signed up for the list with one account, but now you use another account more often.

If you need to change your e-mail address, send a message to ILDA's Executive Director. Let him or her know what your old e-mail account might be (so it can be tracked down and removed) and what new e-mail address you want to use.
 

If you get a "Bounce notice" saying messages to you have been bouncing

You may get an email stating "Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the [listname] mailing list.... Messages to you from the mailing list seem to have been bouncing.... If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces, I will remove your address from the mailing list, without further notice."

This means that the automated mailing list program (called "ezmlm") could not deliver a message from the ILDA List to your email inbox. This could be due to your server being down temporarily, or because a spam filter blocked the message. One good sign is that you got the bounce notice message, so at least you know that the ezmlm program is sending to an email address which you are receiving.

First, check the email address that the list is sending to. You can see this both from the address used by the bounce notice, and from the notice itself which contains the header of the message that bounced. It may be that your list address was temporarily "out of order".

Assuming that your list address is valid, check your spam settings. If possible, change the settings as shown:

If everything seems OK with your email address and spam settings, it could be "just one of those things" where a one-time problem caused the bounce. Just keep an eye on your inbox in subsequent days and weeks to be sure you still get messages from the ILDA and/or Laserist lists.

If these still do not work, contact ILDA and we will try to help.
 

How to read messages from the lists

You will receive any and all messages sent to the list. They will simply appear in your e-mail Inbox just like other e-mail.

As of mid-2006, there are typically only a few messages per week. At certain times, however, there may be many per day. If this bothers you, just wait it out! Delete any unwanted messages.

At this time, ILDA does not pre-screen, monitor or otherwise "clean up" the list. It is WPSIWYG -- What People Send Is What You Get. Fortunately, the spam content has been very low.
 

How to reply to messages

Hit the "Reply" button in your e-mail program. The "To" field will automatically be filled with the sender's e-mail address.

  • To reply privately to the person who sent the message, you don't need to do anything else. Their address is already in the "To" field of the message you are writing.

  • To reply to the entire list, clear the "To" field, and manually enter the list address as shown below. Everyone on the list will see your reply.

If you click on the "Reply to all" button instead, the "To" field will be filled both with the sender's e-mail address, and the list's e-mail address. The only problem with this is that the sender will receive two copies of your reply! (One to him or her personally, and one to him or her as a member of the list.)
 

How to be removed from the lists (unsubscribe)

Send an e-mail message (any message; the subject and content do not matter) to:

Note that this must be sent using the same e-mail address that is registered with the list.

You will receive a confirmation e-mail, letting you know that you have unsubscribed. Depending on the list, you may need to reply to this message to complete the unsubscription process.
 

List archives

To help prevent spam, the following information is a screen capture (picture). The blue links are NOT clickable. Please type these links if you need to use them.

You do not have to include a subject or any text. Simply send an e-mail using the indicated  address, and the automated system will send back the information you request. Further technical details on the archive system are available in the list instruction manual.
 

If you have questions or problems

The mailing list system has an automated help system. To send a "help" request, send e-mail to the following address(es). You do not need to add a subject or any message -- just sending the message is sufficient.

You will receive an e-mail reply from the list system, with instructions about various commands and features.

If you need additional assistance, or if you want to send a one-time message without joining the list, send an e-mail to ILDA's Executive Director.

 


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ILDA WEBSITE AT-A-GLANCE

 
   Most-used website pages

Home page
What's new with ILDA  (latest news)
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Become a Member  (for non-members)
Become Accredited (for laser show companies)
Renew for this year  (for Members)
Member Management website
Contact us  (address, phone, etc.)

Safety links & articles

 

    For laser show clients

Find a laser display company:
      Directory of ILDA Accredited Professionals
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      Directory of ILDA Members, alphabetical
      Directory of ILDA Members, geographical

      Directory of ILDA Members, searchable database

      Members who renewed for 2011
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Submit an inquiry about a specific project
      Contact ILDA

See our Members' work:
      Places to see laser shows
      Latest shows and projects
      New products and services
     
Press releases from our members
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      Sign up for Laserist list email
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      Laser art book: "World of Manick Sorcar"

     
Articles by and about ILDA

Why use lasers:
     
Complete Guide to Laser Shows
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      Why lasers?
     
Atmospheric beam effects
     
Animated graphics
     
The show
      
Technology

Consumer protection:
    
 ILDA Accreditation helps ensure qualifications
      ILDA Code of Ethics protects you
      Ethics Complaint Form (file a complaint)
      Ethics Complaint List (active complaints)
      What does it mean that a company is an ILDA Member?

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      Internet and eBay fraud warning
      Safety links & articles
      Laser effects on cameras and camcorders
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     Are you being harassed by lasers?

     
For laser pointers:
        Safety warning: "DVD Laser Flashlight Hack"

        Laser Pointer Safety website

Inquiries and referrals (find a company, book a show, ask a question)
 

   For all laserists

Become an ILDA Member
ILDA Pro (IAPLC) accreditation

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Laser Safety Officer course
Online Store website
ILDA mailing lists:
      ILDA and Laserist mailing lists
      ILDA BuySell mailing list
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Safety links & articles
Links to related sites

 

 
   For ILDA members

Members-Only pages:
     
How to get a Members-Only password
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      New Member information
      ILDA Award photos for Members
   
  ILDA logos for Member use
   
  ILDA logo policy
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  Insurance
    
 Insurance & shipping liability
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     Audience scanning: Measurements and MPE levels

     Audience scanning: Suggested practices
    
U.S. national laser laws and regulations 
     U.S. import laws:

           U.S. laser laws affecting importers
           CDRH-ILDA letters, Nov. 2007
           Discussion of U.S. import laws
      Local laser laws and regulations
      Avoiding damage to cameras and projectors
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 Technical standards
      "Undergraduate Photons" paper
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 ILDA Bylaws
    
 Board meeting minutes:
            2011
            2010    2009

            2008    2007 
            2006 and earlier

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     ILDA tradeshow reports:
            SIB, April 2008 in Rimini
            Show-way, Feb. 2008, Bergamo
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            LDI, Nov. 2007, Orlando
            PALME, May 2007, Dubai

Member Management website & Online Store
Password help

Update your listings
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Renewals:
      Quick and easy renewal process
      Members who renewed for 2011
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      Members who renewed for 2010
      Members who renewed for 2009


Membership information:
      Member Management website (renew, conference registration, etc.)
      How to check your Membership status & listings

      How to update your Membership listing
      How to renew your Membership

      How to make payments via PayPal or credit card
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      Membership FAQ
      Branch office policy
     
Restrictions on Individual & Student Members

Membership benefits:
      Networking
      Membership listings
     
Annual Conference
      ----------------------------
     
Use the ILDA Member logo
     
Enter the ILDA Awards
     
Receive inquiries
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Member Discount Program
 
    Insurance
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Help set standards
    
 Access to ILDA Standards
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Work on committees
     
Ethics Committee
    
 Input to regulatory agencies
     
"Self-help"

Member Discount Program
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Ethics and business:
      Code of Ethics
     
Code of Business Practice
     
Code of Bus. Pr. FAQ
      Ethics Complaint Form
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Intellectual property tips

      2010 warning - OpenGL artware piracy

Accreditation & certification programs
      Overview
      Required elements
      "ILDA Professional" IAPLC program

Laser safety basics

 

 

 
   About ILDA

Contact us
Permission to reprint ILDA material
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What we do:
     Our mission
     Protecting the industry
     What does it mean that a company is an ILDA Member?
     ILDA's power and limits

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     Articles by and about ILDA


Board, Executive Director & committees:
     
Board and Executive Director
     
Board duties
      Running and voting for the Board
     
Committees
      Volunteer opportunities
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      ILDA's power and limits

Our history:
     Founding meeting, 1986
     Founding Members, 1986
  
  ILDA timeline, 1986-present
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List of past ILDA Award winners
    
List of past ILDA Conferences
    
List of past Board members
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     Current "What's new" page (for this year)
     Past "What's new" pages:
            2010
     2009
            2008    
2007  
            2006

 
 

   The ILDA Conference

Future conferences

Previous conferences:
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2011 Nov., Moscow
          Post-conference report
    
Pre-conference information:
          Overview, registration, attendees

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     2010 Sept., cruise #2 from Miami
          Tim Walsh's diary
          Attendees
          Pre-conference information:
               Overview and registration
               Reservations and travel
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      2009 June, Amsterdam
          Overview and photos
          Technology Workshop
           Pre-conference information:
               ILDA Member registration
               Non-member registration
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 2008 Sept., cruise from Miami
            Post-conference report
            Tim Walsh's diary
            Attendees

            Pre-conference information:
                Overview
                Photo preview
                Reservations and getting there
     
          Conference registration
        
       Sponsorship opportunities
                Logo contest (deadline 6/30)
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      2007 March, Heshan, China:
           About the 2007 Conference
           List of attendees
     
2006 March, Rimini, Italy
     
List of past conferences

About conferences:
      Conferences: A general overview
      Conference hosting guide
 
 

   The ILDA Awards

2011 Award winners

Previous ILDA Award winners

    
List of all artistic & tech winners
     List of all Career Achievement Award winners
     Winners by year:
                                                  2011

         
2010  2009  2008  2007  2006
         
2005  2004  2003  2002  2001
         
2000  1999  1998  1997  1996
         
1995  1994  1993  1992  1991
         
1990  1989  1988     

Awards overview
Judging guidelines

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2012 entry forms
2011 entry forms
ILDA Award trophy photos (Members only)

 

   The Laserist magazine